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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:15 pm    Post subject: UK Election 2017  Reply with quote

So basically Theresa May called an election today even though she said she wouldn't. All the major parties are supporting it and it's pretty much going to happen.

Since there's threads for loads of other political things I thought I might as well just add another conversation here.

Any thoughts on it? Going to be interesting for Labour certainly.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theresa (Margaret Thatcher) May will win with a landslide, and Jeremy (Michael Foot) Corbyn  will be forgotton.

History repeats its self as the generations never learn or want to listen to those before them.


Myself, I have voted for Labour all my life but this time I will vote for whichever candidate can credibly say or show they oppose the Dictator May dragging me out of Europe whatever the cost, as at 45 years old I joined the single market aged 1 year old and do not want to leave now.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK government website shows that young people are registering at a rather large rate right now (https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group).

My constituency has been hard-line Tory since its inception, but since the Lib Dems and Labour have no coalition plans, they're basically just handing it to the Tories.

It's my first election and I'm voting Labour personally, I like Corbyn and his policies.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be a master stroke from May if the SNP lose seats in Scotland - weakrning their case for an independence referendum (i.e. May being able to say that they don't have as much support in Scotland as they seem to think they do)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't understand why England wants to hang on to Scotland. Or NI for that matter.

It's all very Chinese.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could be a master stroke from May if the SNP lose seats in Scotland - weakrning their case for an independence referendum (i.e. May being able to say that they don't have as much support in Scotland as they seem to think they do)

That's what I think this election is primarily about; she already has a majority in the UK parliament and the power to govern as she pleases, so additional seats in England serve no significant purpose other than to massage her ego. Their optimism in Scotland is based on the fact that some constituencies here only narrowly voted against Brexit, so they could get lucky if the remain voters are divided between the other parties. There are also some locations, such as along the border, where they only narrowly lost to the SNP in 2015, and they might think they could clinch it in a re-run. To me, the idea that Scotland is going to return between 9-14 Tory MP's seems far-fetched. However, as I've made clear many times before, my trust towards the UK state is virtually nill. If Theresa May has gone to the trouble of putting this general election in motion with the intention of saving her precious union, put her reputation on the line by doing so, and with all the unionist media outlets predicting a big Tory win, then that's probably what's going to happen. If you catch my drift.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a lighter note, I made this last night for my daily escapades on Twitter. Wink

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Theresa May urges voters 'STRENGTHEN MY HAND'. Then she will use it at the Brexit negotiations and later to cook dinner for Donald Trump's visit.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theresa May now just repeating lines to supporters at rallies knowing the press will cosy up to it. Utter joke. "Strong and stable" leadership? Riiiight.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I only logged in to request a new name for this forum!

Scotland voted narrowly to remain in the United k. Later, they voted not narrowly to remain in the e Union. So far, so consistent. They like U's. I get this.

Meanwhile, rumour has it that Scotland is incapable of surviving without the U k. Same applies without the e U.

So, if Scotland is such a useless sh1th0le, why would the U k hold a snap election in hopes of holding on to it?

Is it cos one useless sh1th0le needs another?

Debate and discussion welcome Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A question from an American who has a superficial knowledge of how things work in Britain... let's say, in a hypothetical, Labour gets absolutely slaughtered in the upcoming election and loses plenty of seats, as reflective in the polling right now. What, do you think, happens?

In addition, how exactly are party leaders - it doesn't matter whether the party is in the majority in Parliament or not - chosen? How often are those leaders changed (and for what reasons)?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it matters much now. The scots voted narrowly  to remain in the U.K.

They also voted, about 12 seconds later & quite strongly I believe, to remain in Europe.

Now, another 4 seconds later, the U.k. Is leaving Europe and  the Scots are going to vote in huge numbers to remain in the U.K. and leave Europe.

They haven't a brain between them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting my friend from Dublin. If only the world could work so simply.

Sadly it doesn't and goes in cycles of war and peace, with the new generation always knowing best. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well sir, two things.

Can you post a tinder profile for me cos you seem to have me pretty thoroughly imagined at this stage.

And

The young are pretty much always wrong. Unfortunately, so is everyone else.

Which is why life is so fun.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dwee716 wrote:
A question from an American who has a superficial knowledge of how things work in Britain... let's say, in a hypothetical, Labour gets absolutely slaughtered in the upcoming election and loses plenty of seats, as reflective in the polling right now. What, do you think, happens?

In addition, how exactly are party leaders - it doesn't matter whether the party is in the majority in Parliament or not - chosen? How often are those leaders changed (and for what reasons)?


1. Jeremy Corbyn resigns and a right-wing Tory government continues.

2. Depends on the party, Conservative MPs get nominated by other MPs and go through rounds until there are 2 candidates left, then the Conservative membership gets to decide between them. With Labour, a candidate has to get at least 15% of the nomination from MPs, then they campaign, and then the Labour membership gets to vote, and with the Lib Dems it is similar. Party leaders are normally changed if they lose an election or have an abysmal showing.  
The Labour MPs tried to out Jeremy Corbyn last year however by running Owen Smith in a second leadership election, but the Labour membership were having none of it.

I personally do not see Labour getting slaughtered per sé, but I do think the Lib Dems will take a fair share of seats from both sides.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vive la France. Very Happy

At least the French have common sense regarding the future, unlike so many in my own country who are "out at any cost" hatred of Europe.

I want to stay in Europe, and so do 75% of the under 30 year olds, the future of Britain so will currently not be voting as all my candidates want out of Europe. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should really start a new thread.

But it has to be said that elections are a LOT more entertaining than they used to be.

And that's saying something.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teresa supporting Donald.

Need I say more.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Duck" guys or at least get behind something big like a mountain when you see the mushroom in the sky....
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay so Labour, the Lib Dems and the Tories have all released their manifesto.

Conservatives not willing do a "Leveson 2". It's like Murdoch wrote it himself.


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